Gender Systems

What are Gender Systems?

Gender systems are a structure within a community or society that serves to define genders, gender roles, and how those interact and generally define people's behaviors within said society or community. Typical societal gender systems include a masculine and/or male and feminine and/or female role, with many also including either a both or neither role (some also include both). The most commonly talked about gender system would be the Western Binary, which is made up of man and woman, which are respectively connected to masculinity/malehood and femininity/femalehood.

MOGAI Gender Systems

Basic Definition

A general definition of gender systems within MOGAI is "to define gender identity, alignment, or presentation. These are usually non-binary genders or xenogenders. Systems usually have an aesthetic or theme that it follows."1

Expanded Definition

Within the MOGAI community, gender systems generally work somewhat differently than gender systems outside of MOGAI. Rather than defining the typical male and/or masculine female and/or feminine, and occasional both and/or neither, and gender roles, they're generally made up of genders related to similar things or connected by a central theme, without masculinity, femininity, etc. being main elements. If those are part of the systems in any way, there's generally something else involved as well, rather than the genders solely being related to typical gender roles and aspects.
There are some outliers to that, such as the Galactian Alignment System, Alloy Alignment System and a few others. These outliers are primarily made up of masculine, feminine, male, female, etc. with some having an added xenic element and xenic genders. Within MOGAI, gender systems can also be called gender families or gender groups.

Gender System Pages

Aami System

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Intro

The Aami System is a system of Yoruba exclusive Neogenders, Specifigenders, Fluiagenders, and Fluxiagenders created to help Yoruba people describe their gender in terms of Yoruba culture and roles.

It's described by the coiner as "The Aami System is a gender system to help Yoruba people describe their gender in a way specifically related to Yoruba culture and cultural roles, separate from western culture and the western binary.

The system going to contain many (exact number still to be decided) terms related to malehood, womanhood, neutrality, etc. for Yoruba people to more specifically describe their gender in relation to those concepts and more, as well as Yoruba culture and cultural roles."1

History

The Aami System was coined on February 15, 2021,2 by Mod Che at Tumblr blog MOGAI-Monarchs.

The current last set of terms, various fluid, flux, and poly-genders were coined on March 19, 2021.3

As of July 6, the system is still unfinished and is likely going to remain that way, given the blog's semi-inactivity and total inactivity from Mod Che.

The Terms

To view all of the genders in the system, see Aami System Genders

Aspic Gender System

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Intro

The Aspic Gender System is a system of various types of genders, all of them Fictigenderss, related to various Homestuck aspects and things related to/associated with them.

History

The Aspic Gender System was coined on September 1, 2020,1 by Tumblr user MOGAIcrow.

Terms

To view all of the genders included in the system, see Aspic Gender System Genders

Atmosfear System

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Intro

The Atmosfear System is a system of various types of genders related to varying atmospheres and fears.

It is defined by the coiner as "The Atmosfear System is a system of genders related to both a specific atmosphere (or things that build a specific atmosphere) and the fear of something, often related to the atmosphere that the gender is also related to."1

History

The Atmosfear System was coined on December 22, 2021, by Tumblr user Page-2-IDs.2 Two terms, Spatialost and Akuman, were added to the terms retroactively

Terms

To view all of the genders included in the system, see Atmosfear System Genders

Atmospheric System


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Intro

The Atmospheric System is a system of Aerogenders, Aesthetigenders, Naturengenders, one Fluiagender and one Hoardeangender related to the sky and things in it, primarily consisting of genders coined by people other than the coiner of the system.

It's described by the coiner as "a gender system for both xenic and non-xenic genders connected to the sky / atmosphere of earth,"1

History

The Atmospheric System was coined on May 2, 2021,2 by LGBTA Wiki user TheIcarusSystem. The genders within the system were coined at various points in time, ranging from 2014 to 2021.

The system list has expanded and shrunk multiple times, with it expanding three times on May 2, 2021,345 and shrinking by one term on July 28, 2021.6

Controversy

Due to the system mostly using terms coined by people other than the system's coiner, there has been some controversy involving people not being asked if their genders can be used in the system. This primarily stems from posts by Tumblr user Page-2-IDs and frustration from 'Mod Em' at the now inactive Tumblr blog MOGAI-Monarchs.

Use of Cloudcoric

On July 21, 2021,7 Tumblr user Page-2-IDs, also known as Synth, came across the Atmospheric System and told Mod Shady, also known as Shady, from the inactive blog MOGAI-Monarchs about it using Cloudcoric, a term initially coined by Mod Em from the same blog. Synth asked if Mod Em, also known as Em, had known about the inclusion of the gender, knowing how zey felt about zeir terms being redefined on the LGBTA Wiki somewhat often. This message read "I was looking at the LGBTA Wiki recently (ikik, bad idea, but I have the impulse control of a toddler) and I noticed that there was a gender system (Atmospheric System, in case you or [Mod Em] wants to know) that has cloudcoric listed as one of the terms.

Do you know if zey’re ok with it? (or could you maybe ask zem if ur not sure? I know how zey feel about redefining of zeir terms, so I doubt this would be (if zey don’t know).
I figured if zey don’t know, I should be the one to break it to y’all, since you like me and it’ll hopefully be less maddening than if either one of you has to come across it on your own."8

Shady responded with "Yeah, no. [Mod Em] didn’t know- def not ok with it. Not sure what we could do about it tho… like it feels like the mods don’t give a [] unless one of us makes a stink about something and I don’t wanna do that again.🙄🙄🙄"9

Synth responded, saying "I could make it an issue if you want. I’m already planning on making a post telling people if they do that to my stuff, I’ll [violent joke], so I could definitely squeeze in that [Mod Em’s] not ok with it.

I mean, I know I don’t have the same impact as y’all, but I’m closing in on 100 followers, so I’m a pretty big deal /hj"10

Shady responded, saying "Nice 😎😎 /lh- and I appreciate the offer, but they probly won’t believe you and [Em] and I couldn’t get mods to curb redefining with our highest count - not sure what you could do 😞"11

Synth responded with somewhat of a plan to make the call out work, saying, "Can’t really do anything about the follower count in the moment (give me a few months and we’ll see /j) but I could post the screenshots of our conversation.

If you could back me up on Monarchs (you don’t even have to say anything past “yep, that’s me” and maybe get Em to confirm) there’s no way they could discredit me"12

Shady responded questioning how well the plan could work and saying, "Uno- did you already take the screenshots just in case?

Dos- thank you, but still not sure if that’d do much- the wouldn’t even listen to a mega-blog (/hj) so I don’t think anything you say is gonna change anything"13

Synth responded, answering Shady's question and trying to boost xair confidence, saying "Eins- maybe… (yeah, I jumped the gun a little lol)

Zwei- I mean, the back up on Monarchs could help. I don’t know if it would actually fix things, but it gives us a shot ;;)"14

Shady responded, calling off any plans for the moment and saying "Your sweet. I say don’t do it - least right now - but keep the screenshots and get whatever new ones you need. I should still run the idea by [Mod em] and I might just get petty"15

There was another, private, message at the end of the conversation, where Synth allegedly confirms that green has the screenshots and is ready to use them.16

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Synth and Shady's Conversation 2
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On July 21, 2021,17 Synth made a post in regards to the use of genders within gender system without the coiner's permission. This post read "Just a heads up, if you add any of my terms to a gender system/collection/whatever without my permission (let alone if you didn’t ask me at all) I will block you. Same goes for if you redefine my stuff on Wikis, assuming I know your Fandom account and Tumblr are the same person (and I don’t mean if you accidentally coin something with the same name as one of my terms, accidents happen and I get that. I mean people who list an inaccurate definition for a term and still credit the coiner and even link to the coining post) /srs"18

This post is likely the one mentioned in green's conversation with Shady, given that a post about the situation with the Atmospheric System, even without the inclusion of Ems' feelings, was mentioned.19

On or before July 28, 2021,20 Shady sent Synth a message, saying that Em had given Synth the go-ahead to make a post about the situation.21

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On July 28, 2021,22 Synth made a second post, including and transcribing the messages between green and Shady, giving a little bit more context for greens earlier post (and a reblog of it) and discouraging people from including terms in gender systems without the coiner's permission. This post, after the transcript, said "For anyone out of the loop, this is kind of more context for this post and why I added specifically that I knew that they didn’t get permission from at least some of the coiners in my reblog.

I was originally just going to leave it at that, but Em (through Shady) gave me the go ahead, so here’s some more context. I also have a few quotes from Em in a mix between our Discord conversations and Shady quoting zem, but zey said zey’d rather I don’t post that, so I’m not going to. Also, zeir name is censored since zey don’t want that out, either (the switching between ‘Em’ and ‘Mod Em’ is because we used a few different nicknames from zem with different lengths)

I know that some of my sections were kind of incoherent, especially in the first message, but I was really tired + kinda stressed about this happening to my terms, and I think that + the rest of the conversation still gets the message across well enough. Also, my semi-violent joke (and the swearing) was hidden so more people could see it. I figured having to tag for it being in here would cut down on the audience for this.

Please stop doing this stuff. It’s really clear that it makes coiners uncomfortable. They (collective MOGAI-Monarchs they) said to just leave their terms alone if you wouldn’t leave them as is, and that’s been ignored at least twice (adding Syszombic with an altered definition, acting like the second definition for cloudcoric was Em’s- it doesn’t matter that you added the source when you didn’t make it clear that that definition was coined by someone else and not em- and then adding cloudcoric- which is, again, only credited to Em, and uses zeir definition in the page for the entire gender system- to a gender system without asking zem).

I know that it probably feels like Em or at least Shady should be doing this (I say this because they’re really close), but it’s stuff like this that’s made even being on Tumblr and by proxy being reminded of MOGAI-Monarchs and all the redefining and drama exhausting for them (and from what I’ve gathered, everyone else). They can barely be on Tumblr any more [sic] for their own sake, let alone actually put together a post about why they don’t like people doing this. Me running this post by them to make sure I didn’t cross any lines was taxing enough, according to them. Shady said that went double for posting (even if it’s just reblogging) about this again.

Please, just stop. It was bad enough when it was just annoying coiners, but it’s actively hurting people. It’s not that hard to not do things with people’s terms without permission and it takes excessively less effort than doing it."23

The tags on Shady's reblog of the post, as well as some reblogs, addressed other issues in regards to the LGBTA Wiki. However, those will not be included here, due to them not relating to this specific controversy or the Atmospheric System in general.

Removal of Cloudcoric

On July 28, 2021,24 Cloudcoric was removed from the Atmospheric System's page, likely in response to Synth's post. None of the other genders have been removed from the page and it's unknown whether or not the Atmospheric System's coiner or anyone else associated with the Wiki has reached out to get permission from the other coiners of the genders included in the system.

Deletion of the System

Some time since the Cloudcoric controversy, the Atmospheric System was removed from the LGBTA Wiki,25 due to the request of the coiner on Tumblr.26

Terms

To view all of the genders included in the system (including terms that were initially included but have since been removed), see Atmospheric System Genders

Badlands System


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Flag Meaning: Flags are formatted like all the other -albumic genders I’ve seen and the colors are generally related to the album cover (maroon for the rocks, blue/aqua for her hair, dark red-ish orange for her skin, light pink for the jacket).

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Flag Meaning: Flags are formatted like all the other -albumic genders I’ve seen and the colors are generally related to the album cover (maroon for the rocks, blue/aqua for her hair, dark red-ish orange for her skin, light pink for the jacket).

Intro

The Badlands System is a system of Colorgenders, Musicagenders, and Neurogenders related to Halsey's debute album, Badlands. This gender system branches off into a one subsystem and a few minisystems.

It's described by the coiner as "A system of genders related to the Badlands album by Halsey. These genders are going to be related to the songs, storylines within specific songs, specific verses/lines, etc."1

History

The Badlands System was coined on July 6, 2021,2 by Tumblr user Page-2-IDS, with all of its current subsystems and minisystems being coined on July 17, 2021.3

Parts of the System

The Badlands System has a few subsystems and minisystems, dividing some of the genders into more specific groups, like genders related to the specific songs or different lyrics. There's also a main part to the system, with the primary connecting thread being genders related to the album in general, rather than specific songs. To view all of the genders in the system, see All Badlands System Genders.

Badlands Main System

The main part of the Badlands System, the Badlands Main System is made up of genders that are connected to the Badlands album, without a connection to the songs, lyrics, etc.

Badlands Song Subsystem

A subsystem of genders related to specific songs on the album.4

Badlands Arrangement Minisystem

A minisystem of genders related to the actual music in the songs.5

Badlands Lyric Minisystem

A minisystem of genders related to the lyrics of the songs.6

Badlands Story Minisystem

A minisystem of genders related to the stories presented within the individual songs.7

Bedtime System


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Flag meaning: Dark blue represents the night sky - Off white represents a mattress - Purplish gray represents loosing consciousness - Pink represents the comfort of your bed

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Flag meaning: Dark blue represents the night sky - Off white represents a mattress - Purplish gray represents loosing consciousness - Pink represents the comfort of your bed
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Intro

The Bedtime System is a system of Actiogenders related to different actions/activities usually done to get ready to or after going to bed.

It's described by the coiner as "a system of genders focused around bedtime. Every gender is based off of doing something before during bedtime. This was made for anyone who feels their gender closely relates to going to bed every night and who want specific terms for different points."1

History

The Bedtime System and all of the terms within it were coined on October 16, 2021 by LGBTA Wiki user S0ftfuzzi3m4n.2 The system's flags were created on the same date by the same user.

The Terms

To see all the terms within the Bedtime System, see Bedtime System Genders

Celestial System


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Intro

The Celestial System is a system of Xenogenders and one Fluiagender that are soft, celestial, nonbinary, and linked to certain energies.

History

Original System

The Celestial System and all of the original terms within it were coined in a number of posts in November of 2017, by now deleted Tumblr user Juparian. While Starfluid was seemingly coined in that series of posts, Tumblr user System-LGBT claimed in a post expanding the system that Starfluid was actually coined by a different individual and assigned it a different definition than was posted in the term's coining by Juparian.1

It's unknown whether or not System-LGBT's claim is correct, given that Juparian can't be asked about it and there are no records of the terms existing before the post made by Juparian. It is also unknown whether the claim originated from System-LGBT, what it was based on, or a number of other factors.

Expansion

The Celestial System expansion and all of the terms within it were coined in a singular, now deleted post on or before October 14, 2018, by Tumblr user System-LGBT.2 This expansion included the addition of new terms and redesigns for a number of the flags within the original system.

It should be noted that these terms were not aproved or run by Juparian, as they had deleted their blog by that point.

Flags

Gender Flags

All of the flags for genders within the Celestial System, except for the Starfluid flag, follow the same format, that being five horizontal stripes, with the bottom three and top one being darker than the second highest stripe. The third stripe has a symbol/emblem with four stars, one big one and three smaller ones around it; this symbol is contained to that one stripe.

System Flag

The Celestial System flag follows the same format as most of the flags within the system. It was made by LGBTA Wiki user Softoro on May 5, 2021.3

Charts

A chart meant to show the relation of the terms within the original Celestial System was made by Tumblr user System-LGBT on February 22, 2018.4

Two new charts to show the relation of terms within the expanded Celestial System, one using more traditional gender systems the other using alternate symbols, was made by the same user on or before October 14, 2018.5

The Terms

To see all the terms within the Xenic Alignment system, see Celestial System Genders

Coffee Bean System


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Intro

The Coffee Bean System, also known as the CB System, is a system of Aerogenders, Fluiagenders, Fluxiagenders, and Gastrongenders related to coffee, the smell of coffee, etc.

History

The Coffee Bean System was coined in a positivity thread on the LGBTA Wiki on November 22, 2021,1 by Artemis via the Cryptocrew account.2

System Flag

The system's flag was created by Artemis on November 24, 2020.3

Flags

The majority of the flags within the Coffee Bean System follow one of two formats. The 'base'/non-Demigender terms have seven stripes that mirror each other starting at the middle and gradient from darker to lighter. The Demigender terms copy their non-Demigender counterparts, with the addition of the black triangle used on the Demisexual and Demiromantic flags.

The Terms

To view all the terms in the Coffee Bean System, see Coffee Bean System Genders.

Colorwheel System


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Intro

The Colorwheel System is a system of Colorgenders related to colors of different types (primary, secondary, etc.).

It's described by the coiner as "a gender system for xenine and non xenine genders, it consists of four genders that connect to primary colors, Secondary colors, tertiary and quaternary colors. Xenine identities may be considered coric, noungenders or aesthetigenders related to the color wheel."1

History

The Colorwheel System was coined on August 12, 2021,2 by LGBTA Wiki user XenoWeirdo. The genders within the system were coined at the same time.

Criticism

While the contents of the Colorwheel System are fairly standard Colorgenders and thus, haven't been criticized, that doesn't mean that the system hasn't still caught some flack. This was because of the system description's misuse of the term -coric. This criticism was posed by now deleted LGBTA Wiki user Jason Todd is a Twunk in a comment on the system's page. This comment reads "I get the feeling that whoever made this page and did the tags has no idea what coric means. It's not a type of gender like xenogender, it's a suffix and one for genders related to core aesthetics. Not only does it not apply because none of these genders use the suffix, but because none of them are related to cores. I think I'm starting to understand where the misunderstanding about what coric actually is comes from."3

While the criticism has stayed contained to that comment, that doesn't take away from the blatant misuse of the suffix, to apply it to genders that neither use it or are related to -core aesthetics.

Terms

To view all of the genders included in the system, see Colorwheel System Genders

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